Recordings Reveal FBI Gave Man a Rifle, Urged Him to Carry Out Mass Shooting to ‘Defend Islam’

It’s become a near-weekly occurrence. Somewhere in some state, the FBI will announce that they’ve foiled yet another terrorist plot and saved lives. However, as the data shows, the majority of these cases involve psychologically diminished patsies who’ve been entirely groomed, armed, and entrapped by FBI agents. Simply put, the FBI manufactures terror threats and then takes credit for stopping them.

But what happens when they take it too far? What happens if the FBI actually tells someone to conduct a mass shooting? Well, in Milwaukee, WI, we are seeing this unfold first hand.

A little over two years ago, Samy Mohamed Hamzeh, 25, found himself in the midst of an FBI sting. Little did he know that he was being groomed for terrorism by the same government who claims to fight terrorism.

Hamzeh was born in the U.S. but lived much of his childhood in Jordan before moving to Milwaukee when he was 19. For four years, Hamzeh lived an entirely normal life, until one day he was contacted by people who wanted to radicalize him and give him weapons.

The group, entirely controlled by the FBI, was plotting to shoot up the Humphrey Scottish Rite Masonic Center during an event.

In February of 2016, the FBI announced they had foiled a terror plot by a man who was planning to kill at least 30 people to “defend Islam.” Americans cheered, and everyone felt safer — the FBI had saved us from extremists once again.

However, that’s not how things actually happened.

For months, two corrupt FBI informants goaded Hamzeh into obtaining weapons. According to his attorneys, hundreds of hours of recorded conversations show the FBI pressed Hamzeh into getting these weapons and eventually began pushing him to carry out a mass shooting.

Despite the intense peer pressure from people pretending that they were mass murderers, Hamzeh resisted. He didn’t even want the guns. Now, his attorneys have filed a motion to get him released on bond because they say he’s been set up.

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The informants, the motion states, “frequently lobbied Hamzeh to get a machine gun despite his repeated protests that all he wanted was a legal handgun to protect himself.”

In spite of the FBI claiming Hamzeh was going to carry out a mass shooting — they were attempting to force him to do — the recordings, according to his attorneys, show he resisted and adamantly refused to ever participate in violence.

Even after the FBI announced their foiled terror plot, they were unable to charge Hamzeh with anything other than possessing a machine gun and a silencer. And even these items had been essentially shoved into his lap by the FBI.

As the Journal-Sentinel reports, a psychiatrist who evaluated Hamzeh in jail concluded he does not fit a profile of someone who would kill strangers and “has a strong moral code with a very prominent conscience and empathy.”

“There is also no evidence that Hamzeh ever made any plans or was doing anything other than making empty boasts to express his resentment about Israel or to gain attention,” reads their brief in support of the bond motion.

Hamzeh has now been in jail for a year and a half because the FBI tried to make him carry out a mass shooting that he didn’t want to do. And, he could be there much longer as each of the charges for the weapons — that he also did not want — carry 10 years a piece.

If Hamzeh never had any intention of carrying out a terror attack and the weapons were forced on him by the FBI, why on Earth would this be on the news and touted as some foiled plot?

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Well, the answer to that is simple.

Former FBI assistant director Thomas Fuentes actually reveals the answer as he defends the tactics used by the FBI to set up poverty-stricken men by offering them large sums of money and weapons to commit crimes.

After he defended the FBI’s role in bribing poor, mentally diminished people to get them to commit crimes, he let out a bombshell statement, confirming what many of us already know.

“If you’re submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for an intelligence agency, you’re not going to submit the proposal that ‘We won the war on terror and everything’s great,’ cause the first thing that’s gonna happen is your budget’s gonna be cut in half,” states Fuentes. “You know, it’s my opposite of Jesse Jackson’s ‘Keep Hope Alive’—it’s ‘Keep Fear Alive.’ Keep it alive.”

There you have it. The FBI puts Americans in danger by grooming otherwise entirely innocent people into doing harm — so they can keep fear alive.

But what would’ve happened if Hamzeh would’ve actually carried out this shooting that the FBI was trying to force on him? Would the FBI still claim they had informants attempting to groom him? Would they admit to forcing him to accept weapons?

David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer, the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer, had this to say about these most unscrupulous operations:

“Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.”

Indeed, we’ve become a lunatic asylum.

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Courtesy of The Free Thought Project

Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project. Follow @MattAgorist on TwitterSteemit, and now on Facebook.

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  • Kemosabe

    The last eight years are going to turn out to be the worst for corruption in our history. As more rocks are turned over more snakes slither out.

  • misterdawg

    remember ruby ridge? it goes back to old man bush, so it’s been going on a long time. to keep their budget from getting cut? also all them bonus so these government agencies spend all their budgets, so they don’t get cut. their all corrupt.

    • James Higginbotham

      yeah then Bill Clinton was President when WACO WENT DOWN.
      AND ALL INVOLVED SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH MURDER OF THOSE PEOPLE AND GIVEN THE DEATH PENALTY.

  • Steve Underwood

    They do this to create a situation where they can grab more power in order to ‘ fight ‘ the bad guys .They create the problem then offer themselves as the solution and the public thinks that everything is fine .

    • James Higginbotham

      that’s how GOVT works, CREATE A PROBLEM, THEN GRAB MORE POWER BY CREATING ANOTHER AGENCY TO SOLVE IT.
      DOES THE DEPT HOMELAND SECURITY COME TO MIND, AND THE PATRIOTS ACT, BOTH WERE CREATED OUT OF HYSTERIA.
      and the STATES AND PEOPLE LOSE MORE AND MORE OF OUR GOD GIVEN LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS.

      • Steve Underwood

        y
        And unfortunately the ONLY way left to us if we want America back and the corruption in Washington to end is the same answer our founding fathers chose and gave us the right to do in the Constitution . We have not only the RIGHT , but a Duty as well , to use any means needed including armed uprising to remove any government that is no longer representing the American people . Such as the federal government . Thet are slowly taking our rights away so we have no legal solutions to fight their corruption . Once they manage to take our guns then America is lost forever . Of course , in the act of taking our guns there will be a lot of dead tyrants along that path .

        • James Higginbotham

          the very REASON for the 2ND AMENDMENT was for such a TIME AS TODAY.
          but FORTUNATELY, for the foreseeable future anyway, President TRUMP was ELECTED, because if one like OLE HILLARY BEAST or one LIKE HER were to come to power then WE THE PEOPLE would have NO CHOICE BUT TO RISE UP AND RESTORE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW AND ORDER.
          also the DEEP STATE, COMMUNIST DEMORATS, WITH A FEW RINO’S AND THE FAKE MSN are trying all they can to STOP OUR PRESIDENT FROM GOVERNING.
          so HE MIGHT JUST NEED WE THE PEOPLE AND AND OUR ARMS in the coming days?
          no one can PREDICT THE FUTURE?

  • V.

    As I recall…2016 was the Obama regime….yeah.

  • James Higginbotham

    there are some good agents in the FBI.
    but the TOP ARE CORRUPTED AND THAT’S A FACT.

    • Mollie Norris

      You’re right! I’ve worked with a retired FBI agent, married to an agent who did FBI black ops for years, who is one of the best, most moral and ethical human beings and team players I’ve known in my life – the good guys have a really hard time with the scum that floats to the top; the people who can be blackmailed or bought.

      • James Higginbotham

        we have a friend who’s Son is an FBI agent, never met him but his Mom is a fine Lady.

        • Mollie Norris

          I think it’s important to mention this. There’s a satanic/psychopathic faction in all US intel agencies, since Nazi SS Thule Society members, now allied with Illuminati, were recruited during and following WWII, but I believe the best way to turn this into a uniform organizational mentality is to ignore the good guys.

          • Poupon Marx

            From Freedom Outpost, which limboed this for two days:

            When decorum, common rules, past procedures, traditional order break down, the operant will be force, intimidation, threats-either implied or expressed. This is commonly referred in colloquial terms as “The Law of The Jungle”, which is referencing animal behavior themes such as “Kill or Be Killed or Eaten”.

            Such seems to be the driving motives of The Left, or The New Left, or The Newest Left. Superficially The Left SEEMS to have changed from those earlier epochs when it agitated for First Amendment rights, Equal Treatment, The Little Guy, etc., etc. But that was a TACTIC. The STRATEGY was always to gain power by crook, hoodwink, false outrage, lies, and misrepresentations; to enumerate just a few of these head fakes and projections as ephemeral as Star Trek holograms. Watching The Left operate is so similar to the “Holodeck” on Star Trek. Nothing is real except ONE BIG THING: The attainment, metastasis, and total grip of CONTROL over everything. Like some super virulent tumor-which is a mass of rapid growth, but dysfunctional tissue that contributes nothing, The Left does not have any inhibitions on its actions and thought. “Reptilian” is how I would describe them, and the subset of the GRIEVANCE INDUSTRY. Some many differ in my characterizations and posit they resemble insects.

            2017-7-20 Disqus

            I’ve been to Costa Rica on business and pleasure. The business was doing ship surveys on the refrigerated fruit (bananas and pineapples) on their way to Europe, primarily. It’s a long trip and the equipment all has to be in perfect working orders. The cargoes are worth millions of dollars. All of this is out of the East Coasts of Costa Rica and Panama, where the plantations are.

            Costa Rica is full of aging hippies, Gaia Earth Mother, Leftist Jews, wacko environmentalists, and Far Left Screw Loosers. There are some nice people, too, but the timbre of the country is socialism, eco-tourism and preservation. And that is fine, but it is kind of skewed. There are wonderful people doing private work on species preservation. I call it the Birkenstock Country. Many supermarkets are OPEN AIR, and it is considered chic to live without air conditioning and worship Al Gore The Sore Bore.

            On the other hand, your characterization-which I realize is tentative-is not accurate. Panamanians are extremely patriotic and proud. They don’t care about what others think about them. There economy was growing at 10% a year for a number of years, and seems to always register a positive. Thinking of Panama as a Latin American Singapore (which is has a close relationship) and Switzerland is accurate in context. Panama had tight banking secrecy until FAT laws of the Democrats under Barry The Magic Negro. Even still, banks of Panama are very stable, sought after. The liquidity is high, they are conservative and very stable.

            In actuality, the Panamanians like Americans, but will always remember the deaths and struggles to obtain ownership of The Canal. Those that jumped the fences and protested inside the Zone (Isthmus) were gunned down. There is a Martyrs Day Holiday that is very solemn, very serious, and speeches made to honor these that were killed. There always is a repetitive point to “never forget”.

            Because of high handed actions of the US Government in the past, the Panamanians are very sensitive to being talked down to, told what to do, and never, never threatened. They just “don’t take no shit from no body”. Panama can exclude any ship(s) of any country it wants to for transit through the canal. Panama is more of an international country than a regional one. This will give you some idea:

            https://www.businesspanama….

            Because of the diverse economy, the United Socialist States of Amurka just don’t have much leverage at all. Right after they gained control of the canal, The Canal Authority, a government chartered private company, turned toward China, Japan and Asia for equipment, management expertise and infrastructure investment. Panama and China have deep relationships.

            Panama only has 3 million people. There are old families that are very influential, and a core of big business leaders. The middle class is very strong, full of professionals and STEM people from all over. There are always job opportunities. Panama is the most free market and entrepreneurial country in the hemisphere, even with its social services, which are modest. Even the underclass seems resistant to off-the-shelf siren songs of socialist utopias. Venezoouela is just next door. The country has large populations of Columbians and Venezuelans, who fled their failed state homelands. In fact, Panama wins whatever happens in Latino America. If the overall economy improves, well, a rising tide lifts all votes. If more Latino American countries go the hara kiri socialist death trail, then Panama wins again, as funds and the top tier of that country pour in to Panama as a refuge.

            The USSA always asks politely when negotiating with Panama. The biggest area of cooperation is anti-drug trafficking. Panama is close to a free trade country with almost no or very low import duties. This keeps a lot of people employed, and a large number of shoppers from other countries that have high import duties, customs, etc. Smart. Very Smart.

            The Business Elite of Panama are very astute, very practical, and get the job done. There is very little tolerance for outside interference. Jews are there but almost invisible and very quiet. It is NOT the place for their toxic activism. The mores and norms of the Panamenos are very traditional, family, and conservative values. In this regard, it is like 1950s America-which is what I liked so much about the people.

            Chiriqui is the state at the northern extreme of Panama. It is far away from Panama City, and the Panamanian inhabitants refer to their home as “The REPUBLIC of Chiriqui.” Very independent minded. Implicit is this: “Don’t push me”. David is the capital and second largest city.

            A generic type of retirement-or just plain high quality living-is a town, not a city, not too small and not too big. Bouquet is about 20,000 souls. As you can read, expats from all over the world live there, and they seem to be the cream of the crop. Most are conservative, right leaning, and civic minded. This town is a cultural powerhouse, from theatre, music festivals, plays, promotion of artistic endeavors, and many other aesthetics. IT IS NOT an artist colony of predominantly artists with arrested cognitive and developmental values and ideas. No, no. It is balanced in a practical and artistic/esthetic sense. I believe it merits an investigative foray and recon. Choose a Posada, i.e., bed and breakfast/inn run by a husband/wife combo, and let them tell you and refer you.

            Panama is a gun ownership country. Once you get your Permanent Residency card, you can get a permit for a firearm. Easy. A correspondent friend of mine who was the part owner and operator of Valle Escondido, a gated community, started a lot of the migration to Bouquet decades ago. He married a nice Iberian Panamanian woman and became quite famous. He died of cancer, but his wife and sons still run the lovely community, which has a hotel, restaurant, etc.

            Ireland? Arouses my ire. It is finished-as you said-just like all of YourRope. The Talmudic Beast has transformed the people, culture, zest, and everything else. It is a vassal country now, with young people imitating Euro-Trash, as an ideal. It will not be a refuge for you. You can get a second passport, legally, in another name from another country, if that suits you. I refer you to Kathleen Pedicord, her husband and their successful business: https://www.liveandinvestov

            And these economic metrics: http://www.focus-economics….

            Specifically: https://www.liveandinvestov

          • Mollie Norris

            “The Left SEEMS to have changed from those earlier epochs” – no; it’s identical to the organic, back-to-nature left that elected Hitler: today’s terminology is even Hitler’s.
            You’re right about Panama – you lived there, after all. My info is very dated: one source is a friend from Panama (country, not La Zona) who says “you never criticize the government in Panama”. I have no idea whether the fact that she’s black is relevant. A second impression is from a youtube video posted by someone who made hotel reservations online and arrived in Panama to find decor that was so egregiously satanic it could have passed as a Disneyland theme ride, which reminded me of Bush, and the third is Russ Baker’s “Family of Secrets”. None of these three are good references for life in Panama today.

          • Poupon Marx

            “I Talk To The Wind,
            Said the straight man to the late man.
            “Where have you been?”
            I’ve been here and I’ve been there
            And I’ve been in between
            I talk to the wind
            My words are all carried away
            I talk to the wind
            The wind does not hear
            The wind cannot hear
            I’m on the outside looking inside
            What do I see
            Much confusion, disillusion
            All around me
            I talk to the wind
            My words are all carried away
            I talk to the wind
            The wind does not hear
            The wind cannot hear”

            https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=king+crimson+I+talk+to+the+wind >>First two versions.

            Your information on Panama is beyond outdated. It is complete nonsense. Any political restrictions are from the dictatorship of General Noriega. I not only lived there, but worked as well and have lifelong residency. You need some high quality recon and intel. Please see the links I sent you. Panama might not be for you, but be informed. Being Black in Panama is a negative, as it is in all of Latin America. Honestly. Latin America is the last place on the planet where being White is giving primacy. And I’m not complaining about it.

            Russ Baker? I did a quick lookup and and almost threw up. What a cuck shabbos or crypsis Chew! I get close enough to Leftist, Marxist, Democratic excreta just enough to validate that the smell is indicative of the content and character. I smell double agent and Illuminati operative.

            Anyway, I’m not trying to convince you of anything, but simply to cut through mis and disinformation you appear to have been subjected to. However, your three references at face value like an impressionistic painting in a comic book setting. I’m an engineer; I only care about what works, is demonstrably valid, and beyond that is reliable and efficient.

          • Mollie Norris

            Russ Baker has large holes in his discussion; eg. Convicted Nazi father Senator Prescott Bush http://educate-yourself.org/cn/familythatpreystogethercompared24aug07.shtml , Committee of 300, and Illuminati, but he did an excellent job of implicating HW Bush in the JFK assassination through his research into Bush’s deception to conceal his presence in Dallas at the time of JFK’s assassination, as well as his close association with international weapons and drug dealers. (Bush airlined out of Dallas, then returned on an unrecorded flight on a friend’s private aircraft, and made unused hotel reservation outside of Dallas). No record of Bush’s 9/11 gold heist in Baker’s book, either, though:
            http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/black_eagle_trust_funds
            I’m an engineer, too; former DARPA R&D chemical process and EMI/RF/Tempest ONI. Russ Baker is much better than what I experienced in classified contracting.

          • Poupon Marx

            I feel the Left is internationalist and oligarchical. Marxism, Communism, Leninism, are just vehicles and tactics to concentrate power to the few from the many.

            Hitler, Fascism are nationalist, ethnic and territorial with ethnic identitarian politics and polity. Hitler and Nazism are bugaboos and distractions that the ADL, Talmudic Luciferians, SPLC and the shakos use as a weaponized ordinance.

          • Mollie Norris

            Right; fascism, marxism, communism, Leninism are all oligarchical-promoted-and-financed top-down pseudo-ideologies created to transfer wealth and power to the oligarchy. Lenin lived off The same Wall Street bankers and industrialists who financed Hitler in 1933 financed the fascist Business Plot in the US in 1933. We really need to celebrate Smedley Butler day – the general who refused to support the plot to assassinate FDR. and perpetrate a fascist coup in the US. We still have time to do this on his birthday – July 30 (1881). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
            I’ve posted Coudenhove-Kalergi numerous times, but it’s only been noticed in conservative and foreign media. The additional fact that a small percentage are refugees relative to the number of US-trained Al Qaeda terrorists also crashes the ROMs of the majority of the MSM brain-dead.
            The primary goal of the Rothschild-funded ADL and other Judaic terrorism protection agencies, I believe, is disguising the fact that the Judaic elite; Khazarian ultra orthodox Babylonian Talmudist Pharisee satanists Chabad Lubavitch, supported the genocide of the am ha’aretz, common Jews whose highest religious authority was the Jewish bible; the written Torah and prophets, the Tenach, and refused to acknowledge the authority of the rabbis above the bible and above God – a sabbatean/satanist takeover of Judaism by genocide, reported by Ha’aretz in Jerusalem and on Jerusalem radio.
            I think this is beyond denial, and that it involves mind control, possibly through subliminal video messaging, which can no longer be isolated from video tracks, in addition to RF/EMI and chemical control, but Common Core think-in-a-box training is pretty effective independently.

          • Poupon Marx

            I agree completely with your statements and opinions, as expressed above. Mayer Amstel Rothschild said openly to his Jewish colleagues and contemporaries, that by combining assists and action, they could control the World; this was in the 1700s. By 1800, they were a powerful European force, with 5 of Mayer’s sons sent to different capitals of Europe to establish national banks and peddle influence, bribery, and blackmail control of the Goyim cattle and sheep.

          • Mollie Norris

            I posted a comment earlier, but I’m reading an Isabel Allende book in which she quotes UCB’s 70s mantra “Everything is tolerated except intolerance. A current translation might be “We’ve reversed our stand on gun laws to support gun violence against conservative gay activists”.

          • Poupon Marx

            You lost me on the connection and correlation there.

          • Mollie Norris

            Morphing of the definition of liberal. Allende’s quote from 60s Berkeley equates the term liberal with tolerance, not the current satanic hivemind.

          • Poupon Marx
          • Mollie Norris

            Ask ultra-orthodox Jew, Chabad Lubavitcher Jared Kushner; this isn’t murder, since these beautiful Syrian children aren’t human – they’re animals:
            Israel Caught Harvesting Organs From Dead Syrians
            http://yournewswire.com/israel-harvesting-organs-syrians/

          • Poupon Marx

            Evil, but the people such as the Poop say nothing. Neither do the Eastern Orthodox Patriarchs, either.

          • Mollie Norris

            The Orthodox church is silent on all issues other than the persecution of Christians in the ME, and it’s a major problem for me. I have no idea why, other than fear of retaliation from Chabad in Russia and the Ukraine. Chabad Lubavitch oligarch/gangster Igor Kolomoisky was a major funder of the US-backed Ukraine neo-Nazi coup, and Chabad has 20-30 synagogues in the Ukraine, and rabbinical Talmudists are a powerful political lobby in Russia.

          • Poupon Marx

            I was raised as a Greek Orthodox. In fact, I was an altar boy. Though believe Orthodoxy to be the only Christian religion that is worthy of that title, I never felt part of it, just as I never felt part of Western Civilization. I enjoy good writing for intrinsic style, artfulness, skill in woodcraft, etc, but have generally lost interest in that genre. These Latin American fantasy writers such as Gabriel Marques and others are usually-in my opinion-not real people in that there perceptions of reality is primarily self centered and narcissistic.

            As I mentioned to you, artistically grifted and high IQ people have dangerous tendencies toward self delusion and mental illness. This has been opined by many over centuries, but solid research confirms it. I have enough trouble perceiving and sorting Reality from fantasy, imagination, willy nilly notions, and escapism.

            The root work of “artificial” is “art”. Art is not real, it is a representation, an abstract. The same is true in German; same derivation. Kunst, kunststoff (plastic).

            Marine Engineering, i.e., running marine power plants and vessel’s physical systems, while traveling and working with a wide swath of people-whom I was responsible for-did more for my salvation than 5 years of psychology study and academic residency. It’s a common story, which used to be known as young men “working their way at sea”, to escape many times from their societies, families, friends, and even themselves.

            My old circle of friends at the University of Texas, Austin were interested in a lot of things, but they were temporal. They were, in their way, very conformist. One of those interests was Carlos Casteneda and the parallel world of the Shaman. To be brief, academic rigor and Inductive Logic and thinking took a nosedive during the Sixties. I took an exit and went “on the road”. When I look back at my “friends” in the social sciences, I find very little of redeeming and eternal value. And these were Ph.D candidates.

            Here is a book that I hold in high regard: “Two Years Before The Mast” by Richard Henry Dana.
            Where are the wanders, yearners, and explorers in today’s generation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3t_TeHkrg4

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CuyLbC2TZo&list=RD-CuyLbC2TZo#t=9

            The Buddha said all in the world is marked with impermanence. It is with this Truth that I can bear the existence of this rotting corpse of Western Civilization. And one’s happiness does not depend on attachments and dependencies.

          • Mollie Norris

            Panama sounds interesting. I mentioned Ireland solely as an alternate to US citizenship – not as a destination. Also, I’m interested in resource ownership. The Bush family owns the largest aquifer in SA, and privatization of resources, including farmland, has been a major UN “communalism” scam agenda since HW Bush illegally signed the Kyoto Agreement. George Hunt, who attended the 1987 Fourth World Wilderness Conference, successfully sued IPCC founder Maurice Strong and former EPA director Ruckelshaus over their plan to drain the San Luis CO aquifer and sell the water, destroying neighboring ranches and the Great Sand Dunes National Monument. Your info is oriented more towards tourism info than covert politics, which will be critical in the near future. The Fourth World is the spirit world accessed through the floor of a kiva – there were no prior conferences.

          • Poupon Marx

            “Your info is oriented more towards tourism info than covert politics, which will be critical in the near future.” No.

            https://www.liveandinvestoverseas.com/country-hub/panama/
            https://www.liveandinvestoverseas.com/the-experts/kathleen-peddicord/

          • Poupon Marx

            I am not sure of the meaning of your last sentence above. For me, there are three modes and methods of validation to elevate to a belief: one, concrete, empirical, historical, correlation, causation, AND common sense provide validation. Two, contradictory, missing, omissions, outright lies, statistically and reasoned opinions of falsehoods, AND intuition/common sense provide a rejection or denial of a claim or declaration. Three, lack of sufficient information, facts, validation, replication, and the missing necessities enumerated above, place an belief on “hold”, in limbo and suspension. Too much fog.

            Power plants are very close and analogous to societies or any scale. The machines, internally and externally, interdependent all add to the function or dysfunction. It takes years to accumulate knowledge to completely understand the entire set and multiple sub-sets of operation, in order to predict, anticipate, repair, and operate smoothly. People are like machines in so many ways, e.g., the nature-nurture “debate”. A badly designed, built (materials and workmanship) is doomed from the start in MOST cases. That’s why Japanese heavy, industrial powerful machines are the best, surpassing the Occident’s best efforts. And exquisite example:

            The “Plant” on a large marine vessel:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC-lYgH0rOM&t=403s

            Complex industrial machines have idiosyncrasies as people do. They have weaknesses and strengths and needs-some of them special. Objectively, machines make better friends than people, just as cats and dogs do.

            This quote from the book, “The Sand Pebbles”-also made into a beautiful movie with Steve McQueen and Candice Bergman-says it succinctly about machinery which demands Truth and Reality, and does not tolerate self-deception and narcissism or delusion:

            “He began taking more interest in his work aboard ship, and then he discovered THE BIG SECRET.

            The secret was simple…. They could not get along without the machinery….. All machinery cared about a man was what he knew and what he can do with his two hands and nobody could fool it on those things. Machinery always obeyed its own rules, and if you broke the rules it didn’t matter how important or charming or pure in heart you were, you couldn’t get away with it. Machinery was fair and honest and it could force people to be fair and honest.” It would force you to be fair and honest. Like a crucible, it burned off the baby fat and low quality substances.